<div dir="ltr">de megoldhatod így is, felülnézetből ábrázoltam:<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Endre Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">erre csak annyi ötletem van, hogy valahogy a satu álló pofájához hozzárögzítesz oldalról valami határoló elemet.<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Acs Gabor <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
    Szerintem másról beszélünk. Elsősorban ujjmaróval marok ki dobozok
    egy lapjából valamilyen alakot. Pl. 2-es maró, 1mm falvastagságú
    műanyag doboz, a maró bemegy valahova belülre, ott bemerül az
    anyagba, tesz egy kört, a körbemart rész kiesik, és kész a munka
    (kontúrmarás). Nekem az a klasszikus műhelymunka, hogy egy darab vas
    egy komplett oldalát lemarom pl., az nem fordul elő.<br>
    <br>
    Ehhez a munkához kell minden egyes munkadarabot ugyanoda
    pozicionálni, hogy mindegyiken ugyanoda kerüljön a kivágás. A satut
    ha hosszában fogatom fel, az álló pofa és a satu teste Y és Z
    irányban megadja a munkadarab pozícióját, de az X-hez kellene valami
    ütköztetés, amit egy ilyen magas satuval keresek ötleteket.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
    <br>
    <a href="tel:2013.08.28.%2010" value="+12013082810" target="_blank">2013.08.28. 10</a>:35 keltezéssel, Endre Szabo írta:
    <div><div><blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">egy oldalt lemarsz, 1 refipont, a másodikat
        lemarod, 2 refipont, a harmadikat... és így tovább.<br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Endre Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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            <div dir="ltr">ui: és az aranyszabály, hogy a anyag 2/3-át
              fogja a satu minimum.<br>
            </div>
            <div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Endre Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">egy oldalt marsz mindig. ami
                        valamerre kiáll. elvben úgy ugye mindig oda
                        ütközteted az álló pofához. de ha ennél
                        bonyolultabb kell, ahhoz ún szekrény rendszerű
                        ütköztető elemek kellenek ami elég drága és
                        speckó.<br>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Acs Gabor
                              <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                  Engem az érdekel, hogy felrakok egy
                                  kis valamit, mondjuk dobozkát, belövök
                                  mindent úgy, hogy pont jó helyre
                                  kerüljön a marás, és utána a
                                  következőt már csak be kelljen
                                  ütköztetni pontosan az előző helyére.
                                  Nekem többnyire téglalap stb. formákat
                                  kell kimarnom műanyag tárgyakból, egy
                                  csomót egymás után. Meg tudom oldani
                                  ütköztetőkkel, leszorítókkal, de
                                  termelékenyebb lenne egy satuval,
                                  ezért akarok évek óta egy jó satut
                                  venni. Másrészt nem lehet mindent jól
                                  felülről leszorítani, hiába oldalról
                                  minden felől támasztva van, kézzel
                                  kell lefognom, nehogy felemelje a
                                  szerszám, ami nem annyira biztonságos.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                  <br>
                                  <a href="tel:2013.08.28.%2010" value="+12013082810" target="_blank">2013.08.28.
                                    10</a>:19 keltezéssel, Endre Szabo
                                  írta:
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                                    <div>
                                      <blockquote type="cite">
                                        <div dir="ltr">elforgatod a
                                          satut miután egy oldalt
                                          végigmartad mindet. de elvben
                                          van otthon ilyen leírásom,
                                          megpróbálom majd megkeresni.<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28
                                            Acs Gabor <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Tök jó
                                                könyv, köszi! Legalább
                                                kicsit szakszerűbb
                                                kifejezéseket ki tudok
                                                nézni belőle :)<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Sajnos a felfogatás satu
                                                részénél ezt az
                                                oldalirányú
                                                pozicionálást nem írják.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                <br>
                                                2013.08.28. 8:45
                                                keltezéssel, Endre Szabo
                                                írta:
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                                                  <div>
                                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><a href="http://www.cnctar.hunbay.com/Csuhas/szakirodalom_linkek.txt" target="_blank">http://www.cnctar.hunbay.com/Csuhas/szakirodalom_linkek.txt</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          és innen<br>
                                                          <a href="http://data.hu/get/3647870/Maras_javitott.pdf" target="_blank">http://data.hu/get/3647870/Maras_javitott.pdf</a><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                        nagy lesz, de
                                                        ebben benne lesz
                                                        szerintem,
                                                        hogyan kell
                                                        gépsatuzni:-)<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28
                                                          Endre Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                                          <p>az esetek
                                                          90%ban az álló
                                                          pofa a
                                                          referencia
                                                          pont. a satut
                                                          tudod
                                                          forgatni, ha
                                                          más irányba
                                                          marsz, hogy
                                                          továbbra is az
                                                          álló pofa
                                                          legyen a ref.
                                                          pont.</p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013.08.28.
                                                          6:17, &quot;Endre
                                                          Szabo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;


                                                          ezt írta:
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                                                          <div><br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <p>hmm.
                                                          gondolom arra
                                                          gondolsz, hogy
                                                          a satuban a
                                                          darabok 
                                                          egyforma
                                                          hosszúak
                                                          legyenek
                                                          mondjuk. ha
                                                          kisebb a
                                                          méretük mint a
                                                          satu befogási
                                                          mélysége,
                                                          alátétet raksz
                                                          be,
                                                          keményfából,
                                                          miegyébbõl.</p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2022" value="+12013082722" target="_blank">2013.08.27. 22</a>:51, &quot;Acs Gabor&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;
                                                          ezt írta:<br type="attribution">
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                                                          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
                                                          :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lehet egy
                                                          kérdéssel
                                                          több?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Nem használtam
                                                          még satut,
                                                          mármint ilyen
                                                          célra. Szóval
                                                          ha fel akarok
                                                          fogatni egymás
                                                          után 100 kis
                                                          izét, és ezt a
                                                          satut előtte
                                                          felszereltem a
                                                          lapra, és
                                                          párhuzamba
                                                          állítottam,
                                                          akkor az Y
                                                          pozícióm az
                                                          fix lesz (a
                                                          nem mozgó
                                                          pofa), a Z is,
                                                          és hogyan
                                                          szokás az X-et
                                                          rögzíteni?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720" target="_blank">2013.08.27.
                                                          20</a>:52
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
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                                                          <p>bõséges
                                                          vala a sátán
                                                          eszköztára:)
                                                          irj egy magán
                                                          emailt, hogy
                                                          rád tudjam
                                                          sózni:) <br>
                                                          ha érdekel más
                                                          is, egyeztess
                                                          a többiekkel,
                                                          mert ha egyben
                                                          el tudjátok
                                                          vinni 90ér a
                                                          többi cók meg
                                                          mókot, akkor
                                                          lenne ebbôl is
                                                          némi
                                                          árengedmény.</p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720" target="_blank">2013.08.27. 20</a>:48, &quot;Acs Gabor&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;
                                                          ezt írta:<br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
                                                          Na ez már a
                                                          nekem való :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720" target="_blank">2013.08.27.


                                                          20</a>:08
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <p>csak
                                                          Ács-nak:)
                                                          (amugy tenyleg
                                                          nem elado,
                                                          gyongyszem:) )<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.knuth-usa.com/produkt,10214.html" target="_blank">http://www.knuth-usa.com/produkt,10214.html</a></p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720" target="_blank">2013.08.27. 20</a>:01, &quot;Endre Szabo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;




                                                          ezt írta:<br type="attribution">
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                                                          <p>ha finomabb
                                                          kell, 20ér
                                                          rádsózok egy
                                                          kicsit:) ennek
                                                          35mm a
                                                          befogási
                                                          mélysége. a
                                                          kicsi saturól
                                                          mindjárt
                                                          keresek vmit.</p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2019" value="+12013082719" target="_blank">2013.08.27. 19</a>:45, &quot;Acs Gabor&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;
                                                          ezt írta:<br type="attribution">
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                                                          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
                                                          Nem tudom azt
                                                          szépen hogy
                                                          kell mondani,
                                                          a pofa felső
                                                          éle és az
                                                          alatta levő
                                                          sík távolsága
                                                          mennyi?
                                                          Mondjuk
                                                          befogási
                                                          mélység lehet?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Az a helyzet,
                                                          hogy én inkább
                                                          finomabb
                                                          munkákat
                                                          szoktam
                                                          csinálni
                                                          (főleg
                                                          műanyag, fa),
                                                          még
                                                          gondolkozom
                                                          mennyire
                                                          tudnám ezt
                                                          kihasználni.
                                                          Eléggé
                                                          használtnak
                                                          tűnik, a
                                                          befogás síkja
                                                          stb. mennyire
                                                          viseltes?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2019" value="+12013082719" target="_blank">2013.08.27.



                                                          19</a>:35
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <p>az 160,
                                                          140re
                                                          nyitható, az
                                                          alapterülete
                                                          kb 52x20cm
                                                          mindent
                                                          belevéve.<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p><a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2019" value="+12013082719" target="_blank">2013.08.27.



                                                          19</a>:33,
                                                          &quot;Acs Gabor&quot;
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;
                                                          ezt írta:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Köszi a
                                                          képet!<br>
                                                          &gt; Ennek a
                                                          satunak a
                                                          pofa-szélessége
                                                          mennyi? Az
                                                          lenne a 160?<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Gábor<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; <a href="tel:2013.08.27.%2019" value="+12013082719" target="_blank">2013.08.27.



                                                          19</a>:24
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; ui:
                                                          bármi kérdés,
                                                          ide, nem
                                                          biztos, hogy
                                                          lesz időm a
                                                          blogon
                                                          megnézni.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          2013/8/27
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://stgellert.blogspot.hu/" target="_blank">http://stgellert.blogspot.hu/</a><br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;
                                                          Kormosnak és
                                                          Ácsnak
                                                          elsőbbsége van
                                                          két tételre
                                                          (eszterga /
                                                          levélpapír
                                                          nehezék).<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt; A
                                                          képek jó
                                                          nagyok,
                                                          látható
                                                          szerintem
                                                          minden. Az
                                                          eszterga
                                                          motorja
                                                          eredetileg vmi
                                                          130w
                                                          minivalami
                                                          volt, az lett
                                                          lecserélve.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          _______________________________________________<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Epitesz
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:Epitesz@lists.javaforum.hu" target="_blank">Epitesz@lists.javaforum.hu</a><br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; <a href="http://lists.javaforum.hu/mailman/listinfo/epitesz" target="_blank">http://lists.javaforum.hu/mailman/listinfo/epitesz</a><br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;
                                                          _______________________________________________<br>
                                                          &gt; Epitesz
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