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    Aha, ez jó, köszi!<br>
    Mellékhatása, hogy talán kíméli a fix satupofát (bár műanyagnál
    mindegy).<br>
    <br>
    Ugye ez a Te satud olyan ügyes fajta, aminél a megszorításkor nem
    emelkedik meg a pofa, mint a 'sima' satuknál?<br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Gábor</pre>
    <br>
    2013.08.28. 11:00 keltezéssel, Endre Szabo írta:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CA+k2h35Qet=4S42QhGMQBcOS83JeAr1yQa+mw8NXa2nq6Q5s9g@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">de megoldhatod így is, felülnézetből ábrázoltam:<br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Endre Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
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            <div dir="ltr">erre csak annyi ötletem van, hogy valahogy a
              satu álló pofájához hozzárögzítesz oldalról valami
              határoló elemet.<br>
            </div>
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              <div class="h5">
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Acs Gabor <span
                      dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Szerintem
                        másról beszélünk. Elsősorban ujjmaróval marok ki
                        dobozok egy lapjából valamilyen alakot. Pl. 2-es
                        maró, 1mm falvastagságú műanyag doboz, a maró
                        bemegy valahova belülre, ott bemerül az anyagba,
                        tesz egy kört, a körbemart rész kiesik, és kész
                        a munka (kontúrmarás). Nekem az a klasszikus
                        műhelymunka, hogy egy darab vas egy komplett
                        oldalát lemarom pl., az nem fordul elő.<br>
                        <br>
                        Ehhez a munkához kell minden egyes munkadarabot
                        ugyanoda pozicionálni, hogy mindegyiken ugyanoda
                        kerüljön a kivágás. A satut ha hosszában fogatom
                        fel, az álló pofa és a satu teste Y és Z
                        irányban megadja a munkadarab pozícióját, de az
                        X-hez kellene valami ütköztetés, amit egy ilyen
                        magas satuval keresek ötleteket.<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                        <br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:2013.08.28.%2010"
                          value="+12013082810" target="_blank">2013.08.28.
                          10</a>:35 keltezéssel, Endre Szabo írta:
                        <div>
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                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div dir="ltr">egy oldalt lemarsz, 1
                                refipont, a másodikat lemarod, 2
                                refipont, a harmadikat... és így tovább.<br>
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                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28 Endre
                                  Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">ui: és az
                                      aranyszabály, hogy a anyag 2/3-át
                                      fogja a satu minimum.<br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
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                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28
                                            Endre Szabo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">egy oldalt
                                                marsz mindig. ami
                                                valamerre kiáll. elvben
                                                úgy ugye mindig oda
                                                ütközteted az álló
                                                pofához. de ha ennél
                                                bonyolultabb kell, ahhoz
                                                ún szekrény rendszerű
                                                ütköztető elemek
                                                kellenek ami elég drága
                                                és speckó.<br>
                                              </div>
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                                                    class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28
                                                      Acs Gabor <span
                                                        dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                                          Engem az
                                                          érdekel, hogy
                                                          felrakok egy
                                                          kis valamit,
                                                          mondjuk
                                                          dobozkát,
                                                          belövök
                                                          mindent úgy,
                                                          hogy pont jó
                                                          helyre
                                                          kerüljön a
                                                          marás, és
                                                          utána a
                                                          következőt már
                                                          csak be
                                                          kelljen
                                                          ütköztetni
                                                          pontosan az
                                                          előző helyére.
                                                          Nekem
                                                          többnyire
                                                          téglalap stb.
                                                          formákat kell
                                                          kimarnom
                                                          műanyag
                                                          tárgyakból,
                                                          egy csomót
                                                          egymás után.
                                                          Meg tudom
                                                          oldani
                                                          ütköztetőkkel,
                                                          leszorítókkal,
                                                          de
                                                          termelékenyebb
                                                          lenne egy
                                                          satuval, ezért
                                                          akarok évek
                                                          óta egy jó
                                                          satut venni.
                                                          Másrészt nem
                                                          lehet mindent
                                                          jól felülről
                                                          leszorítani,
                                                          hiába oldalról
                                                          minden felől
                                                          támasztva van,
                                                          kézzel kell
                                                          lefognom,
                                                          nehogy
                                                          felemelje a
                                                          szerszám, ami
                                                          nem annyira
                                                          biztonságos.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:2013.08.28.%2010" value="+12013082810" target="_blank">2013.08.28.

                                                          10</a>:19
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">elforgatod
                                                          a satut miután
                                                          egy oldalt
                                                          végigmartad
                                                          mindet. de
                                                          elvben van
                                                          otthon ilyen
                                                          leírásom,
                                                          megpróbálom
                                                          majd
                                                          megkeresni.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28

                                                          Acs Gabor <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                                          Tök jó könyv,
                                                          köszi!
                                                          Legalább
                                                          kicsit
                                                          szakszerűbb
                                                          kifejezéseket
                                                          ki tudok nézni
                                                          belőle :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Sajnos a
                                                          felfogatás
                                                          satu részénél
                                                          ezt az
                                                          oldalirányú
                                                          pozicionálást
                                                          nem írják.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          2013.08.28.
                                                          8:45
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cnctar.hunbay.com/Csuhas/szakirodalom_linkek.txt"
                                                          target="_blank">http://www.cnctar.hunbay.com/Csuhas/szakirodalom_linkek.txt</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          és innen<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://data.hu/get/3647870/Maras_javitott.pdf" target="_blank">http://data.hu/get/3647870/Maras_javitott.pdf</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          nagy lesz, de
                                                          ebben benne
                                                          lesz
                                                          szerintem,
                                                          hogyan kell
                                                          gépsatuzni:-)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">2013/8/28

                                                          Endre Szabo <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                                                          <p>az esetek
                                                          90%ban az álló
                                                          pofa a
                                                          referencia
                                                          pont. a satut
                                                          tudod
                                                          forgatni, ha
                                                          más irányba
                                                          marsz, hogy
                                                          továbbra is az
                                                          álló pofa
                                                          legyen a ref.
                                                          pont.</p>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">2013.08.28.

                                                          6:17, "Endre
                                                          Szabo" &lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;



                                                          ezt írta:
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                                                          <p>hmm.
                                                          gondolom arra
                                                          gondolsz, hogy
                                                          a satuban a
                                                          darabok 
                                                          egyforma
                                                          hosszúak
                                                          legyenek
                                                          mondjuk. ha
                                                          kisebb a
                                                          méretük mint a
                                                          satu befogási
                                                          mélysége,
                                                          alátétet raksz
                                                          be,
                                                          keményfából,
                                                          miegyébbõl.</p>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:2013.08.27.%2022" value="+12013082722"
target="_blank">2013.08.27. 22</a>:51, "Acs Gabor" &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;
                                                          ezt írta:<br
                                                          type="attribution">
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                                                          :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Lehet egy
                                                          kérdéssel
                                                          több?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Nem használtam
                                                          még satut,
                                                          mármint ilyen
                                                          célra. Szóval
                                                          ha fel akarok
                                                          fogatni egymás
                                                          után 100 kis
                                                          izét, és ezt a
                                                          satut előtte
                                                          felszereltem a
                                                          lapra, és
                                                          párhuzamba
                                                          állítottam,
                                                          akkor az Y
                                                          pozícióm az
                                                          fix lesz (a
                                                          nem mozgó
                                                          pofa), a Z is,
                                                          és hogyan
                                                          szokás az X-et
                                                          rögzíteni?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
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href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720" target="_blank">2013.08.27.

                                                          20</a>:52
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <p>bõséges
                                                          vala a sátán
                                                          eszköztára:)
                                                          irj egy magán
                                                          emailt, hogy
                                                          rád tudjam
                                                          sózni:) <br>
                                                          ha érdekel más
                                                          is, egyeztess
                                                          a többiekkel,
                                                          mert ha egyben
                                                          el tudjátok
                                                          vinni 90ér a
                                                          többi cók meg
                                                          mókot, akkor
                                                          lenne ebbôl is
                                                          némi
                                                          árengedmény.</p>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720"
target="_blank">2013.08.27. 20</a>:48, "Acs Gabor" &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:levlista@e8e.eu" target="_blank">levlista@e8e.eu</a>&gt;
                                                          ezt írta:<br
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                                                          Na ez már a
                                                          nekem való :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720" target="_blank">2013.08.27.



                                                          20</a>:08
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <p>csak
                                                          Ács-nak:)
                                                          (amugy tenyleg
                                                          nem elado,
                                                          gyongyszem:) )<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.knuth-usa.com/produkt,10214.html" target="_blank">http://www.knuth-usa.com/produkt,10214.html</a></p>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:2013.08.27.%2020" value="+12013082720"
target="_blank">2013.08.27. 20</a>:01, "Endre Szabo" &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;





                                                          ezt írta:<br
                                                          type="attribution">
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                                                          <p>ha finomabb
                                                          kell, 20ér
                                                          rádsózok egy
                                                          kicsit:) ennek
                                                          35mm a
                                                          befogási
                                                          mélysége. a
                                                          kicsi saturól
                                                          mindjárt
                                                          keresek vmit.</p>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:2013.08.27.%2019" value="+12013082719"
target="_blank">2013.08.27. 19</a>:45, "Acs Gabor" &lt;<a
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                                                          ezt írta:<br
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                                                          Nem tudom azt
                                                          szépen hogy
                                                          kell mondani,
                                                          a pofa felső
                                                          éle és az
                                                          alatta levő
                                                          sík távolsága
                                                          mennyi?
                                                          Mondjuk
                                                          befogási
                                                          mélység lehet?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Az a helyzet,
                                                          hogy én inkább
                                                          finomabb
                                                          munkákat
                                                          szoktam
                                                          csinálni
                                                          (főleg
                                                          műanyag, fa),
                                                          még
                                                          gondolkozom
                                                          mennyire
                                                          tudnám ezt
                                                          kihasználni.
                                                          Eléggé
                                                          használtnak
                                                          tűnik, a
                                                          befogás síkja
                                                          stb. mennyire
                                                          viseltes?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">Gábor</pre>
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                                                          19</a>:35
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:
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                                                          <p>az 160,
                                                          140re
                                                          nyitható, az
                                                          alapterülete
                                                          kb 52x20cm
                                                          mindent
                                                          belevéve.<br>
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                                                          19</a>:33,
                                                          "Acs Gabor"
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                                                          ezt írta:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Köszi a
                                                          képet!<br>
                                                          &gt; Ennek a
                                                          satunak a
                                                          pofa-szélessége
                                                          mennyi? Az
                                                          lenne a 160?<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Gábor<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; <a
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href="tel:2013.08.27.%2019" value="+12013082719" target="_blank">2013.08.27.




                                                          19</a>:24
                                                          keltezéssel,
                                                          Endre Szabo
                                                          írta:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; ui:
                                                          bármi kérdés,
                                                          ide, nem
                                                          biztos, hogy
                                                          lesz időm a
                                                          blogon
                                                          megnézni.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          2013/8/27
                                                          Endre Szabo
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href="mailto:stgellertfoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">stgellertfoto@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://stgellert.blogspot.hu/"
                                                          target="_blank">http://stgellert.blogspot.hu/</a><br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;
                                                          Kormosnak és
                                                          Ácsnak
                                                          elsőbbsége van
                                                          két tételre
                                                          (eszterga /
                                                          levélpapír
                                                          nehezék).<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;&gt; A
                                                          képek jó
                                                          nagyok,
                                                          látható
                                                          szerintem
                                                          minden. Az
                                                          eszterga
                                                          motorja
                                                          eredetileg vmi
                                                          130w
                                                          minivalami
                                                          volt, az lett
                                                          lecserélve.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
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